Posts by Cold Steel

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For Christians: What do you think about an Armagedon and the Afterlife

by John Davis in

i don't mean for anyone to get into argument over this, i just want to hear what people believe.i hope that no one will mock or argue with someone else about their beliefs, i know that i won't in this topic.. i still believe in a christian god, not what jws believe, but believe that there has to be something after this life.

i am not sure about how armageddon would go, would it be like how evangelicals believe with a rapture or timing or anything, though i still believe in a form of armageddon.

i do think that all good people will go to heaven but i don't believe in a hell.

Cold Steel

Armageddon: An event, yet future, in which a despot from what is modern day Turkey attacks Israel -- specifically Jerusalem before being halted by the power of God residing in his two witnesses (prophets) (see Revelation 11). According to Ezekiel, the military forces would be ultimately destroyed by God, except a sixth part. The Jews are repeatedly described as being "gathered out of the nations." This prophecy, found in Ezekiel 37-38, could only be fulfilled in our day as the Jews were only scattered to the heathen nations once, and that was by the Romans. Ezekiel also repeatedly refers to the wickedness of the Jews as being the reason they were scattered. Zechariah 12-14 tells us the same story, emphasizing the Lord's power in delivering Israel (though many Jews will die in the conflict). Both prophesy that the conflict will be so spectacular that the Jews will never pollute God's name again. In hindsight we can see what today's Jews cannot -- that they were scattered because they crucified their Messiah. And they are gathered to reestablish their relationship and to see for themselves the iniquity of their fathers. In prophecy, Armageddon is the great battle in which the Jews (and Muslims) learn the identity of the Messiah and learn at long last to live in peace.

The above is how most Christians see things. Some believe the land of Gog and Magog to be in Russia, not Turkey, but I believe it will be Turkey. The JW version of Armageddon is self-centered and strained.

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There is no true religion.

by atomant in

l came to this conclusion based on the fact that humans are imperfect living in an imperfect world.the bible was written by imperfect human hands and is impossible to interpret with 100% accuracy.religion is man made to help control the masses..

Cold Steel

I've read probably close to a hundred near death experiences by people from all sects and cultures, and in not one of them was the person asked what church he or she belonged to. Instead, the emphasis is on what the person did for others.

One can debate whether these experiences are true or not, but based on what they have in common (vivid colors, intelligent conversations with those who had passed, the vastness of the other world, life reviews and so forth), I'd say there's reason to take them seriously.

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JWs Ban TRUE RELIGION!

by Cold Steel in

the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, known for its aggressive worldwide proselytizing efforts, stunned many of its 12-million members by declaring war this week on a los angeles denim and designer jeans organization that goes by the name “true religion.”.

“as members of jehovah's one true religious faith we have no business of associating with any organization that claims to be jehovah's true religion!” a letter from the gb states.

it was dated july 20.. in its opening salvo, the seven-member gb directed believers to not “shop at, buy, nor even wear” true religion's products.

Cold Steel

Yes, my friends, it's a JOKE!

Still, I wouldn't be caught in the TRUE RELIGION store (especially if you have a beard).

These jeans make great gifts for elders and others who want others to know they're on the right track!

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JWs Ban TRUE RELIGION!

by Cold Steel in

the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, known for its aggressive worldwide proselytizing efforts, stunned many of its 12-million members by declaring war this week on a los angeles denim and designer jeans organization that goes by the name “true religion.”.

“as members of jehovah's one true religious faith we have no business of associating with any organization that claims to be jehovah's true religion!” a letter from the gb states.

it was dated july 20.. in its opening salvo, the seven-member gb directed believers to not “shop at, buy, nor even wear” true religion's products.

Cold Steel

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, known for its aggressive worldwide proselytizing efforts, stunned many of its 12-million members by declaring war this week on a Los Angeles denim and designer jeans organization that goes by the name “True Religion.”

“As members of Jehovah's one true religious faith we have no business of associating with any organization that claims to be Jehovah's true religion!” a letter from the GB states. It was dated July 20.

In its opening salvo, the seven-member GB directed believers to not “shop at, buy, nor even wear” True Religion's products.

“There's really nothing surprising about our actions,” said GB member Mark Sanderson. “We don't sell jeans and they shouldn't be into religion.”

But True Religion CEO John Ermatinger doesn't agree.

“We're not into religion at all. It's simply a marketing name, like Kleenex, or Xerox. Where do the Jehovah's Witnesses get off criticizing us?”

Sanderson says registered companies should stick to the businesses they were created to serve. “We've been around for more than a century,” Sanderson said, “and though we haven't actually heard from Jehovah, we're pretty sure if he were here that he'd disapprove of what this clothing outlet is doing. I've never told any of the other guys this before, but when we meet, I can feel Jehovah is there with us, invisibly of course. No one can see him. Sometimes when we're together as a group of Twelve...er, seven, I'll hear someone cough, and I'll look behind me and no one will be there. Very odd. I'll say, ‘Hey, did you guys hear that?' and they'll like say, ‘yeah.'”

“Look, we have nothing to do with religion,” Ermatinger iterated, hitting his fist gently against the table with each word. “Sometimes these guys, they come in here with their wives, clutching their Watchtowers and we ask them if we can help them. They just look at each other and then look away. They don't say a word. It's very creepy!”

“Well,” Sanderson said, “Creepy is as creepy does! But where does Ermatinger get off with this True Religion stuff? What if we called ourselves the Watchtower Jeans and Denim Society? What would he say?”

“I'd say, go ahead,” Ermatinger said. “Besides, what do they have to do with religion? They're a frickin' publishing company! And besides, they use cheap paper and ink! We have to wash our hands every time we pick up the literature they leave around here. If we don't our hands smell and we break out in a rash.”

The Jehovah's Witnesses have said it will sure the new store if its owners attempt to use the term, “The Truth.”

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Russia Ban = Armageddon?

by HereIgo in

something tells me that the russian j dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that armageddon is upon us.

they will be sadly disappointed.

thoughts?.

Cold Steel

Seeing that the biblical Armageddon has nothing to do with JWs and everything to do with the city of Jerusalem and the Jews of the last days, yeah, they're going to be a bit disappointed. They've never understood the prophecies.

The Adventist aspects of the JW religion were laid before the Jewish Zionist foundation were laid back when Israel became a nation.

Armageddon is all about the conversion of the Jews and the destruction of their enemies. Just about all Christian sects fully understates that.

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Had twin babies with a married JW?!?!?!?!?!?! advice & thoughts

by Gokumonkey in

before i begin i just wanna say, im not proud of what i did, it was wrong but it happened now im just trying to do the right thing.. ok so im a "worldly" person and i meet a jw women at my job.

i had no idea she was married due to the fact that she hid her wedding ring.

i even ask if she was in a relationship and she denied it.

Cold Steel

I know this is a difficult matter for you, but have you considered just letting the twins grow up without you? If they can be assimilated into the present family and raised in a good home, you'll only be a distraction. I realize they're part of you, but it might be best for everyone if you weren't there as a constant reminder of this woman's infidelity.

It might be best just to cut out and leave the twins in the care of their family. Let them bury the past for the sake of their kids. If you get involved legally, you might destroy the integrity of the family. It makes me ill to think they're going to be raised in that religion, but do you intend to undermine the religious beliefs of the kids while the couple is raising them?

What are your legal rights and wishes regarding this matter?

Since you invited all questions, let me ask a personal one. This woman hid her ring and marital status for a long time. Was she anxious to have a physical relationship? And who initiated it, you or her? Do you think she wanted a long term relationship with you at the time? And why wasn't she on birth control? Many times when twins are involved, women are actually taking fertility meds. Any chance this was the case...that she was trying to get pregnant?

I know you want to be a part of these kids' lives, but like I said, it might seriously damage the relationship of the family. Is it possible you want this woman to leave her husband and marry you, or is that not part of the equation?

Whatever happens, good luck.

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How does the WTS explain away THIS scripture?

by Searching in

i'm honestly in awe about this particular scripture (and honestly i can't keep thanking jwfacts enough for providing biblical contradictions to the jw doctrine!).

"john said to him: "teacher, we saw a certain man expelling demons by the use of your name and we tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us.

" but jesus said: "do not try to prevent him, for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me; for he that is not against us is for us.

Cold Steel

The JWs use the term "congregation" for "church," and it should be the latter. In latter parlance there were seven congregations that existed within the church, and these are the seven churches spoken of by John.

A paradox occurs in Acts 19:13-19:

Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.

The people of the region saw that there was great power in the name of Jesus, but while some were justified in using Jesus' name, others were not. We don't know what motivated each group, but certainly motivation seems to be a factor. It may be the second group attempted to charge money, or attempted to use a priesthood they didn't legitimately have.

Still, it is a paradox.

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Worse than the maggots apparently...

by NoviceLocs14 in

so after a couple of years, i've finally re-established contact with a close relative (not revealing too much for privacy reasons).

it turns out that he is dfd (for the typical jw reasons, of course).

we caught up about a lot of things, including family.

Cold Steel

Mrmagic » JW's routinely call non-JW'swho they meet in the public cart witnessing "Apostates" for asking about the Australian Royal Commission. JW culture is changing from the old definition of "apostate" being someone who once was a JW to now anyone who questions them.

Yep. An apostate is one who has the truth, then leaves it. The JW war on education is paying off.

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Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)

by pale.emperor in

just wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.

i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.

my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .

Cold Steel

Beware the godless communists and their fellow travelers.

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Why Are More JWs Claiming to be Anointed?

by Ding in

most jws i know claim they are happy being in the great crowd.

they'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.. heaven is a place they can't relate to, a place where they don't expect their friends and loved ones to be.. so why are more and more jws claiming to be of the anointed?.

aren't they looked down upon as if they are crazy, proud, ignorant, or engaging in apostate thinking?.

Cold Steel

Ding » They'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.

Well, after the first few trillion years, petting lions could get to be a bore. In fact, just about everything would get to be a bore! If one goes to heaven, one can turn their bodies to energy and span the cosmos and visit all sorts of strange new worlds, learning all the secrets of the Universe.

If one goes to Paradise Earth, one is limited to a mundane existence. Family get-togethers, vegetarian meals with all the tofu you can eat, meetings and petting all the animals you want. You can paint vivid sunsets (or sunrises), play musical instruments, attend more meetings and did I leave anything out. You might even be able to grow beards and plants.

Nah, I can see why people would want to be in Heaven.